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==Title==
 
==Title==
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createconnectcollaborate.com
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[[http://CreateConnectCollaborate.com CreateConnectCollaborate]]
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offered for [[FreeGainSharing]] .. to public valued Aboutus or Meatball Wiki or forum authors of [[NamePros.com]].
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No problem if you are new to the above wikis, if you can point from here to your author credentials in other communities, giving authentication.
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Yes with zero acquisition and transaction costs.
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You have it, you sell it, we share afterwards in equal parts the gain.
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Your initial costs are given as a credit without interest costs.
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you have prepaid them by your <->[[Meatball:TrueAuthorCredit]]
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another experiment in
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{{g|SocialDomaining}}
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within the framework
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of the rising
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{{g|Wikinomics}}
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ecology.
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Let's start our friendly and constructive public negotiation on this page or another [[BiLink]]ed Aboutus.org page.
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[[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 13:52, 24 August 2009 (PDT)
  
 
==Additional Information==
 
==Additional Information==
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from an IRC-chat with [[Aboutus]] staff: ''(basically raw protocol, with emphasized formatting of the topical part, and making the references true links)''
 +
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fridemar: I have another bug to report: The FalseEditLink
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[2:24pm] fridemar: Sometimes an already established page xyz
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[2:25pm] fridemar: that is referred by [[xyz]]
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[2:25pm] fridemar: is not shown in HTML mode. It is shown in edit mode.
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[2:25pm] TedErnst: I saw your note about that on WhoWeAre
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[2:26pm] TedErnst: when I went to WhoWeAre, the link was red, indicating that the page does not exist
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[2:26pm] TedErnst: when clicking on a redlink, the page is supposed to open in edit mode
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[2:26pm] TedErnst: so the issue is the red/blue link, methinks
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[2:27pm] fridemar: Why is that so?
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[2:27pm] fridemar: I can
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[2:27pm] fridemar: can't make a rhyme on this...
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[2:27pm] TedErnst: I think it has to do with database replication
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[2:28pm] TedErnst: one or more of the servers are confused about the status of a page (exist or not exist)
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[2:28pm] TedErnst: which means the link shows red
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[2:28pm] TedErnst: once the server figures it out (perhaps when you click)
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[2:28pm] TedErnst: then it's blue from then on, and we never see it again for that link
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[2:28pm] fridemar: I did that without success..
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[2:28pm] TedErnst: the link is blue now
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[2:29pm] fridemar: Ah good .. thank you
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[2:29pm] TedErnst: I didn't do anything except click on it
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[2:29pm] fridemar: What do you think about this Bold Wikiness?
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[2:29pm] TedErnst: bold wikiness?
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[2:30pm] You are now known as MarkDilley.
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[2:30pm] You were promoted to operator by ChanServ.
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<pre>
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[2:30pm] fridemar: Yes. I offer to RealName people kind of an incentive ..
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[2:31pm] fridemar: RealName pays
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[2:31pm] TedErnst: ah
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[2:31pm] fridemar: has a payout .... in savings versus offering this domain
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[2:31pm] fridemar: for xxxx US $
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[2:32pm] fridemar: Do you want to buy it and working on it later together?
 +
[2:32pm] fridemar: Anyone wants to buy it
 +
[2:33pm] fridemar: It is another example of ExtremeOpenBusiness ...
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</pre>
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{{g|ExtremeOpenBusiness}}
 +
<pre>
 +
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[2:33pm] TedErnst: I love your energy, fridemar
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[2:33pm] fridemar: Is Ward listening .. you and Kent invented
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[2:33pm] fridemar: ExtremeProgramming
 +
</pre>
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{{g|ExtremeProgramming}}
 +
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[2:34pm] MarkDilley: he is not at the moment
 +
[2:34pm] fridemar: I love all the wonderful people here ...
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[2:34pm] MarkDilley: feeling is mutual
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[2:34pm] fridemar: Mark good to see you ..
 +
<pre>
 +
[2:35pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness is a generalization of the
 +
 +
[2:35pm] fridemar: principles of ExtremeProgramming
 +
[2:35pm] fridemar: Easyness, Full Feedback, Embracing Change, ...
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[2:35pm] fridemar: Always in test-mode
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[2:36pm] fridemar: Courage
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[2:36pm] fridemar: OpenSource is only a snapshot of a radical OpenProcess.
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</pre>
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[[Meatball:OpenProcess]]
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<pre>
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[2:37pm] fridemar: OpenBusiness is a diluted concept ...
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[2:37pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness is a clearcut concept
 +
[2:37pm] fridemar: OpenBusiness has millions of Google entries...
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[2:37pm] fridemar: no chance for profiling
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[2:38pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness has only the entries of the inventor
 +
[2:39pm] fridemar: Credit goes to the precursors OpenSource movement
 +
[2:39pm] fridemar: and Ward and Kent ... for ExtremeProgramming
 +
[2:40pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness makes all processes, resources,
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[2:40pm] fridemar: transaction visible to the public.
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[2:40pm] fridemar: But even more ... it has a builtin
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[2:40pm] fridemar: OpenInvitationToParticipation.
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[2:40pm] MarkDilley: this is a great story fridemar - will it be
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[2:40pm] MarkDilley: somewhere else than irc
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[2:40pm] fridemar: transactions
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[2:41pm] fridemar: It is kind of an interactive TV reality show.
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[2:41pm] fridemar: On [[Meatball:ExtremeOpenBusiness]]
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</pre>
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[[Meatball:ExtremeOpenBusiness]]
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<pre>
 +
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[2:41pm] MarkDilley: great
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[2:41pm] fridemar: twinned with a AboutusOrg page.
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[2:42pm] fridemar: [[ExtremeOpenBusiness]]
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[2:42pm] fridemar: We make a bottom up approach .. first tests then
 +
[2:42pm] fridemar: the theory ...
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[2:43pm] fridemar: Just like in ExtremeProgramming
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[2:43pm] fridemar: We can always show some surprising results ...
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[2:44pm] fridemar: This accelerates the process, makes us more
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[2:44pm] fridemar: productive ...
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[2:44pm] fridemar: The goal is to build an infrastructure, that enables
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[2:44pm] fridemar: creative and constructive wikizens to make a living
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[2:44pm] fridemar: from wiki collaboration.
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[2:45pm] fridemar: Without that, wikis tend to degrade into
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[2:44pm] fridemar: [[Meatball: GhostTowns]] and SpamGardens.
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</pre>
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isolated [[Meatball:GhostTowns]]
 +
<pre>
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[2:46pm] fridemar: If there are enough fully engaged wikizens in a wiki,
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[2:46pm] fridemar: they will defend the wiki against parasitic
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[2:46pm] fridemar: "contributions", that destroy the work of peers.
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[2:48pm] fridemar: We can overcome the braindrain from wikis to
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[2:48pm] fridemar: "serious workplaces", where there is work in
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[2:48pm] fridemar: master-slave mode
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[2:48pm] fridemar: and a fixed salary.
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[2:55pm] fridemar: Of course more and more companies have a flatter
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[2:55pm] fridemar: hierarchy like Google and [[Aboutus]]
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[2:56pm] fridemar: But Aboutus.org is to me much more open than Google
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[2:56pm] fridemar: ....
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</pre>
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[2:57pm] fridemar: Nobody interested?
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[2:58pm] fridemar: Ted?
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[2:59pm] fridemar: coreyburke?
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[2:59pm] fridemar: ethand?
 +
[2:59pm] fridemar: Julia?
 +
[2:59pm] fridemar: Kristina?
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[2:59pm] TedErnst: sorry fridemar , I'm here
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[2:59pm] TedErnst: your energy is a bit difficult to keep up with
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[2:59pm] fridemar:
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[3:00pm] fridemar: Ted what do you think about
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[3:00pm] fridemar: CreateConnectCollaborate?
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{{g|CreateConnectCollaborate}}
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<pre>
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[3:00pm] KristinaWeis: Yes.
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[3:01pm] fridemar: Hey Kristina my first love on Aboutus ... you gave me
 +
[3:01pm] fridemar: the first gentle introduction
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[3:01pm] fridemar:
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[3:02pm] KristinaWeis: Haha, well thank you and you're welcome.
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[3:02pm] fridemar: Since then I became more and more active as a [3:02pm] fridemar: community member ....
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[3:02pm] KristinaWeis: I love that "my first love on AboutUs"
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[3:02pm] KristinaWeis:
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[3:03pm] fridemar: It's indeed the case .. you gave me the initial fuel ...
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[3:03pm] fridemar: So what do you think about CreateConnectCollaborate
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</pre>
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{{g|CreateConnectCollaborate}} ...
 +
 
<pre>
 
<pre>
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[3:04pm] fridemar: we could elaborate this together and share the gain
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[3:04pm] fridemar: of this domain ...
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[3:04pm] fridemar: it could become another internal motor for the
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[3:04pm] fridemar: advancement of AboutUs
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[3:05pm] KristinaWeis: I like it...
 +
</pre>
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[3:05pm] KristinaWeis: Brb, phone.
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[3:05pm] fridemar: Yes
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<pre>
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[3:08pm] fridemar: Create=Create awareness of all the domains,
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[3:08pm] fridemar: represented in Aboutus
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[3:08pm] fridemar: Connect    them with synergetic Bilinks and user [3:08pm] fridemar: contributions
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[3:09pm] fridemar: Collaborate  with companies, organizations, active [3:09pm] fridemar: community users ...
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[3:09pm] TedErnst: fridemar: for me, the painful part of working for
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[3:09pm] TedErnst: AboutUs is the financial sustainability part
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[3:09pm] TedErnst: I'd love to be full-time working with you on this
 +
[3:09pm] TedErnst: kind of stuff
 +
[3:09pm] TedErnst: and it's simply not possible at this time
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[3:10pm] fridemar: Perhaps some time ....
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[3:12pm] TedErnst: it seems like you are in the stage for many of your
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[3:12pm] TedErnst: ideas where you need founding partners, people to
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[3:12pm] TedErnst: really get behind the idea
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</pre>
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[3:12pm] TedErnst: it's hard for me to see a place for someone with 10
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[3:12pm] TedErnst: minutes per day or 10 minutes per month - you know
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[3:12pm] TedErnst: what I mean?
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[3:13pm] fridemar: Yes , work overload ...
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[3:18pm] fridemar: I could imagine a employer model, where half of the
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[3:18pm] fridemar: time is paid and the other time is free use
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[3:19pm] fridemar: In the free use time the employees can /and should
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[3:19pm] fridemar: earn/ a multiple of their standard income to prove
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the concept.
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[3:20pm] fridemar: S/he can use all the resources of the company,
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[3:20pm] fridemar: similar like Google staff use all standard apps, they
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[3:20pm] fridemar: offer for customers.
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[3:21pm] fridemar: all their own (homemade)standards like Google: Docs,
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[3:21pm] fridemar: Calender, Spreadsheet, etc....
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<pre>
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[3:22pm] fridemar: I ll try to prove the concept as an active community member....
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</pre>
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[3:23pm] fridemar: Hi Kristina, are you still here ...
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[3:23pm] fridemar: Julia?
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[3:23pm] fridemar: Mattis=MattisManzel?
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[3:23pm] fridemar: Michi
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[3:23pm] fridemar: Obed
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[3:23pm] fridemar: Steven
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[3:24pm] fridemar: Ward?
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[3:24pm] michiSchoenitzer: what?
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[3:24pm] fridemar: Nobody interested?
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[3:24pm] fridemar: Hi michi
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[3:24pm] MarkDilley: fridemar
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[3:24pm] fridemar: Mark
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<pre>
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[3:25pm] MarkDilley: I hear you getting frustrated and I don't want
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[3:25pm] MarkDilley: that, but I also don't know how to get done what
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[3:25pm] MarkDilley: you want to get done.
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[3:25pm] fridemar: The offer for collaboration is CreateConnectCollaborate
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</pre>
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{{g|CreateConnectCollaborate}}
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<pre>[3:25pm] MarkDilley: [[CreateConnectCollaborate.com]]
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[3:25pm] fridemar: Yes
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[3:26pm] MarkDilley: you bought it when and are offering it for a
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[3:26pm] MarkDilley: collective of $100 ?
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[3:26pm] fridemar: I bought this premium domain today
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[3:27pm] fridemar: Yes this is the price, you honor my initial work (and
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[3:27pm] MarkDilley: the fee of 5.99$)
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[3:27pm] fridemar: Then you have it.
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[3:27pm] MarkDilley: why aren't we sharing it?
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[3:27pm] fridemar: And I continue to work on it.
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[3:28pm] fridemar: We share the work on developing it.
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[3:28pm] MarkDilley: Why are we not co-owning the domain?
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<pre>
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[3:29pm] fridemar: I need to take at least 100$ to overcome the
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</pre>
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{{g|StayPoor}} meme,
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<pre>
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[3:29pm].. which is widely distributed in online communities.
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[3:29pm] fridemar: Imagine I have to sell each day such a domain, to
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[3:29pm] fridemar: earn my normal income, other people earn be beeing employed.
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[3:30pm] fridemar:
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[3:30pm] fridemar: I am not employed.
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[3:30pm] • MarkDilley confused and don't have time to be confused right now :-s
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[3:30pm] MarkDilley: sorry
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[3:30pm] fridemar:
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[3:30pm] fridemar: I understand.
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[3:31pm] fridemar: "I" is only a dummy for all those free intelligences, ....
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[3:31pm] fridemar: Its not about me, its about us.
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[3:32pm] MarkDilley: I understand that
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[3:32pm] fridemar: We share ... think about it.
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[3:32pm] fridemar: The poor have no chance, if the rich say, I wont pay,
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[3:32pm] fridemar: lets share.
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[3:33pm] fridemar: Ted just wrote, there is not much time for staff
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[3:33pm] fridemar: people to collaborate on the development of
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domain-names.
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[3:34pm] fridemar: So in the end, "I" do 99
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[3:34pm] fridemar: percent of the work, for 3US$
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[3:34pm] MarkDilley: fridemar - I am just not following you and would
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[3:34pm] MarkDilley: like this on a wiki page
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[3:34pm] MarkDilley: too much energy for IRC - for me
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[3:34pm] fridemar: Yes please publish it ...
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[3:35pm] fridemar: You did this yesterday and I am very thankful to you.
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</pre>
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==Related Domains==
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<WikiPages>
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Information.com
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</WikiPages>
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== BiLinks ==
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<->
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* [[CreateConnectCollaborate]]
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==External Links==
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* '''Alexa''': [http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main?url=createconnectcollaborate.com CreateConnectCollaborate.com]
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* [http://whois.domaintools.com/createconnectcollaborate.com WHOIS for CreateConnectCollaborate.com]
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__NOTOC__
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==Additional Information==
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from an IRC-chat with [[Aboutus]] staff: ''(basically raw protocol, with emphasized formatting of the topical part, and making the references true links)''
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fridemar: I have another bug to report: The FalseEditLink
 
fridemar: I have another bug to report: The FalseEditLink
 
[2:24pm] fridemar: Sometimes an already established page xyz
 
[2:24pm] fridemar: Sometimes an already established page xyz
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[2:30pm] You are now known as MarkDilley.
 
[2:30pm] You are now known as MarkDilley.
 
[2:30pm] You were promoted to operator by ChanServ.
 
[2:30pm] You were promoted to operator by ChanServ.
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<pre>
 
[2:30pm] fridemar: Yes. I offer to RealName people kind of an incentive ..
 
[2:30pm] fridemar: Yes. I offer to RealName people kind of an incentive ..
 
[2:31pm] fridemar: RealName pays
 
[2:31pm] fridemar: RealName pays
 
[2:31pm] TedErnst: ah
 
[2:31pm] TedErnst: ah
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[2:31pm] fridemar: has a payout .... in savings versus offering this domain for xxxx US $
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[2:31pm] fridemar: has a payout .... in savings versus offering this domain
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[2:31pm] fridemar: for xxxx US $
 
[2:32pm] fridemar: Do you want to buy it and working on it later together?
 
[2:32pm] fridemar: Do you want to buy it and working on it later together?
 
[2:32pm] fridemar: Anyone wants to buy it
 
[2:32pm] fridemar: Anyone wants to buy it
 
[2:33pm] fridemar: It is another example of ExtremeOpenBusiness ...
 
[2:33pm] fridemar: It is another example of ExtremeOpenBusiness ...
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</pre>
 +
{{g|ExtremeOpenBusiness}}
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<pre>
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[2:33pm] TedErnst: I love your energy, fridemar
 
[2:33pm] TedErnst: I love your energy, fridemar
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[2:33pm] fridemar: Is Ward listening .. you and Kent invented ExtremeProgramming
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[2:33pm] fridemar: Is Ward listening .. you and Kent invented
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[2:33pm] fridemar: ExtremeProgramming
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</pre>
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{{g|ExtremeProgramming}}
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[2:34pm] MarkDilley: he is not at the moment
 
[2:34pm] MarkDilley: he is not at the moment
 
[2:34pm] fridemar: I love all the wonderful people here ...
 
[2:34pm] fridemar: I love all the wonderful people here ...
 
[2:34pm] MarkDilley: feeling is mutual
 
[2:34pm] MarkDilley: feeling is mutual
 
[2:34pm] fridemar: Mark good to see you ..
 
[2:34pm] fridemar: Mark good to see you ..
−
[2:35pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness is a generalization of the principles of ExtremeProgramming
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<pre>
 +
[2:35pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness is a generalization of the
 +
 
 +
[2:35pm] fridemar: principles of ExtremeProgramming
 
[2:35pm] fridemar: Easyness, Full Feedback, Embracing Change, ...
 
[2:35pm] fridemar: Easyness, Full Feedback, Embracing Change, ...
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[2:35pm] fridemar: Always in test-mode
 
[2:35pm] fridemar: Always in test-mode
 
[2:36pm] fridemar: Courage
 
[2:36pm] fridemar: Courage
 
[2:36pm] fridemar: OpenSource is only a snapshot of a radical OpenProcess.
 
[2:36pm] fridemar: OpenSource is only a snapshot of a radical OpenProcess.
−
[2:37pm] fridemar: OpenBusiness is a diluted concept ... ExtremeOpenBusiness is a clearcut concept
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</pre>
 +
[[Meatball:OpenProcess]]
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<pre>
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[2:37pm] fridemar: OpenBusiness is a diluted concept ...
 +
[2:37pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness is a clearcut concept
 
[2:37pm] fridemar: OpenBusiness has millions of Google entries...
 
[2:37pm] fridemar: OpenBusiness has millions of Google entries...
 
[2:37pm] fridemar: no chance for profiling
 
[2:37pm] fridemar: no chance for profiling
 
[2:38pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness has only the entries of the inventor
 
[2:38pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness has only the entries of the inventor
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[2:39pm] fridemar: Credit goes to the precursors OpenSource movement and Ward and Kent ... for ExtremeProgramming
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[2:39pm] fridemar: Credit goes to the precursors OpenSource movement
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[2:40pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness makes all processes, resources, transaction visible to the public.
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[2:39pm] fridemar: and Ward and Kent ... for ExtremeProgramming
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[2:40pm] fridemar: But even more ... it has a builtin OpenInvitationToParticipation.
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[2:40pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness makes all processes, resources,
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[2:40pm] MarkDilley: this is a great story fridemar - will it be somewhere else than irc
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[2:40pm] fridemar: transaction visible to the public.
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[2:40pm] fridemar: But even more ... it has a builtin
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[2:40pm] fridemar: OpenInvitationToParticipation.
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[2:40pm] MarkDilley: this is a great story fridemar - will it be
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[2:40pm] MarkDilley: somewhere else than irc
 
[2:40pm] fridemar: transactions
 
[2:40pm] fridemar: transactions
 
[2:41pm] fridemar: It is kind of an interactive TV reality show.
 
[2:41pm] fridemar: It is kind of an interactive TV reality show.
−
[2:41pm] fridemar: On Meatball:ExtremeOpenBusiness
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[2:41pm] fridemar: On [[Meatball:ExtremeOpenBusiness]]
 +
</pre>
 +
[[Meatball:ExtremeOpenBusiness]]
 +
<pre>
 +
 
 
[2:41pm] MarkDilley: great
 
[2:41pm] MarkDilley: great
 
[2:41pm] fridemar: twinned with a AboutusOrg page.
 
[2:41pm] fridemar: twinned with a AboutusOrg page.
 
[2:42pm] fridemar: [[ExtremeOpenBusiness]]
 
[2:42pm] fridemar: [[ExtremeOpenBusiness]]
−
[2:42pm] fridemar: We make a bottom up approach .. first tests then the theory ...
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[2:42pm] fridemar: We make a bottom up approach .. first tests then
 +
[2:42pm] fridemar: the theory ...
 
[2:43pm] fridemar: Just like in ExtremeProgramming
 
[2:43pm] fridemar: Just like in ExtremeProgramming
 
[2:43pm] fridemar: We can always show some surprising results ...
 
[2:43pm] fridemar: We can always show some surprising results ...
−
[2:44pm] fridemar: This accelerates the process, makes us more productive ...
+
[2:44pm] fridemar: This accelerates the process, makes us more
−
[2:44pm] fridemar: The goal is to build an infrastructure, that enables creative and constructive wikizens to make a living from wiki collaboration.
+
[2:44pm] fridemar: productive ...
−
[2:45pm] fridemar: Without that, wikis tend to degrade into GhostTowns and SpamGardens.
+
[2:44pm] fridemar: The goal is to build an infrastructure, that enables
−
[2:46pm] fridemar: If there are enough fully engaged wikizens in a wiki, they will defend the wiki against parasitic "contributions", that destroy the work of peers.
+
[2:44pm] fridemar: creative and constructive wikizens to make a living
−
[2:48pm] fridemar: We can overcome the braindrain from wikis to "serious workplaces", where there is work in master-slave mode and a fixed salary.
+
[2:44pm] fridemar: from wiki collaboration.
−
[2:55pm] fridemar: Of course more and more companies have a flatter hierarchy like Google and Aboutus.org
+
[2:45pm] fridemar: Without that, wikis tend to degrade into
−
[2:56pm] fridemar: But Aboutus.org is to me much more open than Google ....
+
[2:44pm] fridemar: [[Meatball: GhostTowns]] and SpamGardens.
 +
</pre>
 +
isolated [[Meatball:GhostTowns]]
 +
<pre>
 +
[2:46pm] fridemar: If there are enough fully engaged wikizens in a wiki,
 +
[2:46pm] fridemar: they will defend the wiki against parasitic
 +
[2:46pm] fridemar: "contributions", that destroy the work of peers.
 +
[2:48pm] fridemar: We can overcome the braindrain from wikis to
 +
[2:48pm] fridemar: "serious workplaces", where there is work in
 +
[2:48pm] fridemar: master-slave mode
 +
[2:48pm] fridemar: and a fixed salary.
 +
[2:55pm] fridemar: Of course more and more companies have a flatter
 +
[2:55pm] fridemar: hierarchy like Google and [[Aboutus]]
 +
[2:56pm] fridemar: But Aboutus.org is to me much more open than Google
 +
[2:56pm] fridemar: ....
 +
</pre>
 
[2:57pm] fridemar: Nobody interested?
 
[2:57pm] fridemar: Nobody interested?
 
[2:58pm] fridemar: Ted?
 
[2:58pm] fridemar: Ted?
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[2:59pm] TedErnst: your energy is a bit difficult to keep up with
 
[2:59pm] TedErnst: your energy is a bit difficult to keep up with
 
[2:59pm] fridemar:
 
[2:59pm] fridemar:
−
[3:00pm] fridemar: Ted what do you think about CreateConnectCollaborate?
+
[3:00pm] fridemar: Ted what do you think about
 +
[3:00pm] fridemar: CreateConnectCollaborate?
 +
 
 +
{{g|CreateConnectCollaborate}}
 +
<pre>
 
[3:00pm] KristinaWeis: Yes.
 
[3:00pm] KristinaWeis: Yes.
−
[3:01pm] fridemar: Hey Kristina my first love on Aboutus ... you gave me the first gentle introduction
+
[3:01pm] fridemar: Hey Kristina my first love on Aboutus ... you gave me
 +
[3:01pm] fridemar: the first gentle introduction
 
[3:01pm] fridemar:
 
[3:01pm] fridemar:
 
[3:02pm] KristinaWeis: Haha, well thank you and you're welcome.
 
[3:02pm] KristinaWeis: Haha, well thank you and you're welcome.
−
[3:02pm] fridemar: Since then I became more and more active as a community member ....
+
[3:02pm] fridemar: Since then I became more and more active as a [3:02pm] fridemar: community member ....
 
[3:02pm] KristinaWeis: I love that "my first love on AboutUs"
 
[3:02pm] KristinaWeis: I love that "my first love on AboutUs"
 
[3:02pm] KristinaWeis:
 
[3:02pm] KristinaWeis:
 
[3:03pm] fridemar: It's indeed the case .. you gave me the initial fuel ...
 
[3:03pm] fridemar: It's indeed the case .. you gave me the initial fuel ...
−
[3:03pm] fridemar: So what do you think about CreateConnectCollaborate ...
+
[3:03pm] fridemar: So what do you think about CreateConnectCollaborate
−
[3:04pm] fridemar: we could elaborate this together and share the gain of this domain ...
+
</pre>
−
[3:04pm] fridemar: it could become another internal motor for the advancement of AboutUs
+
 
 +
{{g|CreateConnectCollaborate}} ...
 +
 
 +
<pre>
 +
[3:04pm] fridemar: we could elaborate this together and share the gain
 +
[3:04pm] fridemar: of this domain ...
 +
[3:04pm] fridemar: it could become another internal motor for the
 +
[3:04pm] fridemar: advancement of AboutUs
 
[3:05pm] KristinaWeis: I like it...
 
[3:05pm] KristinaWeis: I like it...
 +
</pre>
 
[3:05pm] KristinaWeis: Brb, phone.
 
[3:05pm] KristinaWeis: Brb, phone.
 
[3:05pm] fridemar: Yes
 
[3:05pm] fridemar: Yes
−
[3:08pm] fridemar: Create=Create awareness of all the domains, represented in Aboutus
+
<pre>
−
[3:08pm] fridemar: Connect    them with synergetic Bilinks and user contributions
+
[3:08pm] fridemar: Create=Create awareness of all the domains,
−
[3:09pm] fridemar: Collaborate  with companies, organizations, active community users ...
+
[3:08pm] fridemar: represented in Aboutus
−
[3:09pm] TedErnst: fridemar: for me, the painful part of working for AboutUs is the financial sustainability part
+
[3:08pm] fridemar: Connect    them with synergetic Bilinks and user [3:08pm] fridemar: contributions
−
[3:09pm] TedErnst: I'd love to be full-time working with you on this kind of stuff
+
[3:09pm] fridemar: Collaborate  with companies, organizations, active [3:09pm] fridemar: community users ...
 +
[3:09pm] TedErnst: fridemar: for me, the painful part of working for
 +
[3:09pm] TedErnst: AboutUs is the financial sustainability part
 +
[3:09pm] TedErnst: I'd love to be full-time working with you on this
 +
[3:09pm] TedErnst: kind of stuff
 
[3:09pm] TedErnst: and it's simply not possible at this time
 
[3:09pm] TedErnst: and it's simply not possible at this time
 
[3:10pm] fridemar: Perhaps some time ....
 
[3:10pm] fridemar: Perhaps some time ....
−
[3:12pm] TedErnst: it seems like you are in the stage for many of your ideas where you need founding partners, people to really get behind the idea
+
[3:12pm] TedErnst: it seems like you are in the stage for many of your
−
[3:12pm] TedErnst: it's hard for me to see a place for someone with 10 minutes per day or 10 minutes per month - you know what I mean?
+
[3:12pm] TedErnst: ideas where you need founding partners, people to
 +
[3:12pm] TedErnst: really get behind the idea
 +
</pre>
 +
[3:12pm] TedErnst: it's hard for me to see a place for someone with 10
 +
[3:12pm] TedErnst: minutes per day or 10 minutes per month - you know
 +
[3:12pm] TedErnst: what I mean?
 
[3:13pm] fridemar: Yes , work overload ...
 
[3:13pm] fridemar: Yes , work overload ...
−
[3:18pm] fridemar: I could imagine a employer model, where half of the time is paid and the other time is free use
+
[3:18pm] fridemar: I could imagine a employer model, where half of the
−
[3:19pm] fridemar: In the free use time the employees can /and should earn/ a multiple of their standard income to prove the concept.
+
[3:18pm] fridemar: time is paid and the other time is free use
−
[3:20pm] fridemar: S/he can use all the resources of the company, similar like Google staff use all standard apps, they offer for customers.
+
[3:19pm] fridemar: In the free use time the employees can /and should
−
[3:21pm] fridemar: all their own (homemade)standards like Google: Docs, calender, Spreadsheet, etc....
+
[3:19pm] fridemar: earn/ a multiple of their standard income to prove
 +
the concept.
 +
[3:20pm] fridemar: S/he can use all the resources of the company,
 +
[3:20pm] fridemar: similar like Google staff use all standard apps, they
 +
[3:20pm] fridemar: offer for customers.
 +
[3:21pm] fridemar: all their own (homemade)standards like Google: Docs,
 +
[3:21pm] fridemar: Calender, Spreadsheet, etc....
 +
<pre>
 
[3:22pm] fridemar: I ll try to prove the concept as an active community member....
 
[3:22pm] fridemar: I ll try to prove the concept as an active community member....
 +
</pre>
 
[3:23pm] fridemar: Hi Kristina, are you still here ...
 
[3:23pm] fridemar: Hi Kristina, are you still here ...
 
[3:23pm] fridemar: Julia?
 
[3:23pm] fridemar: Julia?
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[3:24pm] MarkDilley: fridemar
 
[3:24pm] MarkDilley: fridemar
 
[3:24pm] fridemar: Mark
 
[3:24pm] fridemar: Mark
−
[3:25pm] MarkDilley: I hear you getting frustrated and I don't want that, but I also don't know how to get done what you want to get done.
+
<pre>
 +
[3:25pm] MarkDilley: I hear you getting frustrated and I don't want
 +
[3:25pm] MarkDilley: that, but I also don't know how to get done what
 +
[3:25pm] MarkDilley: you want to get done.
 
[3:25pm] fridemar: The offer for collaboration is CreateConnectCollaborate
 
[3:25pm] fridemar: The offer for collaboration is CreateConnectCollaborate
−
[3:25pm] MarkDilley: CreateConnectCollaborate.com
+
</pre>
 +
 
 +
{{g|CreateConnectCollaborate}}
 +
 
 +
<pre>[3:25pm] MarkDilley: [[CreateConnectCollaborate.com]]
 
[3:25pm] fridemar: Yes
 
[3:25pm] fridemar: Yes
−
[3:26pm] MarkDilley: you bought it when and are offering it for a collective of $100 ?
+
[3:26pm] MarkDilley: you bought it when and are offering it for a
 +
[3:26pm] MarkDilley: collective of $100 ?
 
[3:26pm] fridemar: I bought this premium domain today
 
[3:26pm] fridemar: I bought this premium domain today
−
[3:27pm] fridemar: Yes this is the price, you honor my initial work (and the fee of 5.99$)
+
[3:27pm] fridemar: Yes this is the price, you honor my initial work (and
 +
[3:27pm] MarkDilley: the fee of 5.99$)
 
[3:27pm] fridemar: Then you have it.
 
[3:27pm] fridemar: Then you have it.
 
[3:27pm] MarkDilley: why aren't we sharing it?
 
[3:27pm] MarkDilley: why aren't we sharing it?
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[3:28pm] fridemar: We share the work on developing it.
 
[3:28pm] fridemar: We share the work on developing it.
 
[3:28pm] MarkDilley: Why are we not co-owning the domain?
 
[3:28pm] MarkDilley: Why are we not co-owning the domain?
−
[3:29pm] fridemar: I need to take at least 100$ to overcome the Google:StayPoor meme, which is widely distributed in online communities.
+
<pre>
−
[3:29pm] fridemar: Imagine I have to sell each day such a domain, to earn my normal income, other people earn be beeing employed.
+
[3:29pm] fridemar: I need to take at least 100$ to overcome the
 +
</pre>
 +
{{g|StayPoor}} meme,
 +
<pre>
 +
[3:29pm].. which is widely distributed in online communities.
 +
[3:29pm] fridemar: Imagine I have to sell each day such a domain, to
 +
[3:29pm] fridemar: earn my normal income, other people earn be beeing employed.
 
[3:30pm] fridemar:
 
[3:30pm] fridemar:
 
[3:30pm] fridemar: I am not employed.
 
[3:30pm] fridemar: I am not employed.
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[3:32pm] MarkDilley: I understand that
 
[3:32pm] MarkDilley: I understand that
 
[3:32pm] fridemar: We share ... think about it.
 
[3:32pm] fridemar: We share ... think about it.
−
[3:32pm] fridemar: The poor have no chance, if the rich say, I wont pay, lets share.
+
[3:32pm] fridemar: The poor have no chance, if the rich say, I wont pay,
−
[3:33pm] fridemar: Ted just wrote, there is not much time for staff people to collaborate on the development of domain-names.
+
[3:32pm] fridemar: lets share.
 +
[3:33pm] fridemar: Ted just wrote, there is not much time for staff
 +
[3:33pm] fridemar: people to collaborate on the development of
 +
domain-names.
 
[3:34pm] fridemar: So in the end, "I" do 99
 
[3:34pm] fridemar: So in the end, "I" do 99
 
[3:34pm] fridemar: percent of the work, for 3US$
 
[3:34pm] fridemar: percent of the work, for 3US$
−
[3:34pm] MarkDilley: fridemar - I am just not following you and would like this on a wiki page
+
[3:34pm] MarkDilley: fridemar - I am just not following you and would
 +
[3:34pm] MarkDilley: like this on a wiki page
 
[3:34pm] MarkDilley: too much energy for IRC - for me
 
[3:34pm] MarkDilley: too much energy for IRC - for me
 
[3:34pm] fridemar: Yes please publish it ...
 
[3:34pm] fridemar: Yes please publish it ...
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Information.com
 
Information.com
 
</WikiPages>
 
</WikiPages>
 +
 +
== BiLinks ==
 +
<->
 +
* [[CreateConnectCollaborate]]
 +
  
 
==External Links==
 
==External Links==
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__NOTOC__
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[[Category:Social Domaining]]
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[[Category:Open Business]]
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[[Category:Extreme Open Business]]
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[[Category:Wiki Nomics]]

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Website Analysis

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This page is about a company.

Title

[CreateConnectCollaborate] offered for FreeGainSharing .. to public valued Aboutus or Meatball Wiki or forum authors of NamePros.com.

No problem if you are new to the above wikis, if you can point from here to your author credentials in other communities, giving authentication.

Yes with zero acquisition and transaction costs. You have it, you sell it, we share afterwards in equal parts the gain. Your initial costs are given as a credit without interest costs.

you have prepaid them by your Meatball:TrueAuthorCredit 

another experiment in
G SocialDomaining
within the framework
of the rising
G Wikinomics
ecology.

Let's start our friendly and constructive public negotiation on this page or another BiLinked Aboutus.org page.


fridemar 13:52, 24 August 2009 (PDT)

Additional Information

from an IRC-chat with Aboutus staff: (basically raw protocol, with emphasized formatting of the topical part, and making the references true links)

fridemar: I have another bug to report: The FalseEditLink [2:24pm] fridemar: Sometimes an already established page xyz [2:25pm] fridemar: that is referred by xyz [2:25pm] fridemar: is not shown in HTML mode. It is shown in edit mode. [2:25pm] TedErnst: I saw your note about that on WhoWeAre [2:26pm] TedErnst: when I went to WhoWeAre, the link was red, indicating that the page does not exist [2:26pm] TedErnst: when clicking on a redlink, the page is supposed to open in edit mode [2:26pm] TedErnst: so the issue is the red/blue link, methinks [2:27pm] fridemar: Why is that so? [2:27pm] fridemar: I can [2:27pm] fridemar: can't make a rhyme on this... [2:27pm] TedErnst: I think it has to do with database replication [2:28pm] TedErnst: one or more of the servers are confused about the status of a page (exist or not exist) [2:28pm] TedErnst: which means the link shows red [2:28pm] TedErnst: once the server figures it out (perhaps when you click) [2:28pm] TedErnst: then it's blue from then on, and we never see it again for that link [2:28pm] fridemar: I did that without success.. [2:28pm] TedErnst: the link is blue now [2:29pm] fridemar: Ah good .. thank you [2:29pm] TedErnst: I didn't do anything except click on it [2:29pm] fridemar: What do you think about this Bold Wikiness? [2:29pm] TedErnst: bold wikiness? [2:30pm] You are now known as MarkDilley. [2:30pm] You were promoted to operator by ChanServ. 

[2:30pm] fridemar: Yes. I offer to RealName people kind of an incentive ..
[2:31pm] fridemar: RealName pays
[2:31pm] TedErnst: ah
[2:31pm] fridemar: has a payout .... in savings versus offering this domain
[2:31pm] fridemar: for xxxx US $
[2:32pm] fridemar: Do you want to buy it and working on it later together?
[2:32pm] fridemar: Anyone wants to buy it
[2:33pm] fridemar: It is another example of ExtremeOpenBusiness ...

G ExtremeOpenBusiness 


[2:33pm] TedErnst: I love your energy, fridemar
[2:33pm] fridemar: Is Ward listening .. you and Kent invented
[2:33pm] fridemar: ExtremeProgramming

G ExtremeProgramming

[2:34pm] MarkDilley: he is not at the moment [2:34pm] fridemar: I love all the wonderful people here ... [2:34pm] MarkDilley: feeling is mutual [2:34pm] fridemar: Mark good to see you .. 

[2:35pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness is a generalization of the

[2:35pm] fridemar: principles of ExtremeProgramming
[2:35pm] fridemar: Easyness, Full Feedback, Embracing Change, ...

[2:35pm] fridemar: Always in test-mode
[2:36pm] fridemar: Courage
[2:36pm] fridemar: OpenSource is only a snapshot of a radical OpenProcess.

Meatball:OpenProcess 

[2:37pm] fridemar: OpenBusiness is a diluted concept ...
[2:37pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness is a clearcut concept
[2:37pm] fridemar: OpenBusiness has millions of Google entries...
[2:37pm] fridemar: no chance for profiling
[2:38pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness has only the entries of the inventor
[2:39pm] fridemar: Credit goes to the precursors OpenSource movement
[2:39pm] fridemar: and Ward and Kent ... for ExtremeProgramming
[2:40pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness makes all processes, resources,
[2:40pm] fridemar: transaction visible to the public.
[2:40pm] fridemar: But even more ... it has a builtin
[2:40pm] fridemar: OpenInvitationToParticipation.
[2:40pm] MarkDilley: this is a great story fridemar - will it be
[2:40pm] MarkDilley: somewhere else than irc
[2:40pm] fridemar: transactions
[2:41pm] fridemar: It is kind of an interactive TV reality show.
[2:41pm] fridemar: On [[Meatball:ExtremeOpenBusiness]]

Meatball:ExtremeOpenBusiness 


[2:41pm] MarkDilley: great
[2:41pm] fridemar: twinned with a AboutusOrg page.
[2:42pm] fridemar: [[ExtremeOpenBusiness]]
[2:42pm] fridemar: We make a bottom up approach .. first tests then
[2:42pm] fridemar: the theory ...
[2:43pm] fridemar: Just like in ExtremeProgramming
[2:43pm] fridemar: We can always show some surprising results ...
[2:44pm] fridemar: This accelerates the process, makes us more
[2:44pm] fridemar: productive ...
[2:44pm] fridemar: The goal is to build an infrastructure, that enables
[2:44pm] fridemar: creative and constructive wikizens to make a living
[2:44pm] fridemar: from wiki collaboration.
[2:45pm] fridemar: Without that, wikis tend to degrade into
[2:44pm] fridemar: [[Meatball: GhostTowns]] and SpamGardens.

isolated Meatball:GhostTowns 

[2:46pm] fridemar: If there are enough fully engaged wikizens in a wiki,
[2:46pm] fridemar: they will defend the wiki against parasitic
[2:46pm] fridemar: "contributions", that destroy the work of peers.
[2:48pm] fridemar: We can overcome the braindrain from wikis to
[2:48pm] fridemar: "serious workplaces", where there is work in
[2:48pm] fridemar: master-slave mode
[2:48pm] fridemar: and a fixed salary.
[2:55pm] fridemar: Of course more and more companies have a flatter
[2:55pm] fridemar: hierarchy like Google and [[Aboutus]]
[2:56pm] fridemar: But Aboutus.org is to me much more open than Google
[2:56pm] fridemar: ....

[2:57pm] fridemar: Nobody interested? [2:58pm] fridemar: Ted? [2:59pm] fridemar: coreyburke? [2:59pm] fridemar: ethand? [2:59pm] fridemar: Julia? [2:59pm] fridemar: Kristina? [2:59pm] TedErnst: sorry fridemar , I'm here [2:59pm] TedErnst: your energy is a bit difficult to keep up with [2:59pm] fridemar: [3:00pm] fridemar: Ted what do you think about [3:00pm] fridemar: CreateConnectCollaborate?

G CreateConnectCollaborate 

[3:00pm] KristinaWeis: Yes.
[3:01pm] fridemar: Hey Kristina my first love on Aboutus ... you gave me
[3:01pm] fridemar: the first gentle introduction
[3:01pm] fridemar:
[3:02pm] KristinaWeis: Haha, well thank you and you're welcome.
[3:02pm] fridemar: Since then I became more and more active as a [3:02pm] fridemar: community member ....
[3:02pm] KristinaWeis: I love that "my first love on AboutUs"
[3:02pm] KristinaWeis:
[3:03pm] fridemar: It's indeed the case .. you gave me the initial fuel ...
[3:03pm] fridemar: So what do you think about CreateConnectCollaborate

G CreateConnectCollaborate ... 

[3:04pm] fridemar: we could elaborate this together and share the gain
[3:04pm] fridemar: of this domain ...
[3:04pm] fridemar: it could become another internal motor for the
[3:04pm] fridemar: advancement of AboutUs
[3:05pm] KristinaWeis: I like it...

[3:05pm] KristinaWeis: Brb, phone. [3:05pm] fridemar: Yes 

[3:08pm] fridemar: Create=Create awareness of all the domains,
[3:08pm] fridemar: represented in Aboutus
[3:08pm] fridemar: Connect    them with synergetic Bilinks and user [3:08pm] fridemar: contributions
[3:09pm] fridemar: Collaborate  with companies, organizations, active [3:09pm] fridemar: community users ...
[3:09pm] TedErnst: fridemar: for me, the painful part of working for
[3:09pm] TedErnst: AboutUs is the financial sustainability part
[3:09pm] TedErnst: I'd love to be full-time working with you on this
[3:09pm] TedErnst: kind of stuff
[3:09pm] TedErnst: and it's simply not possible at this time
[3:10pm] fridemar: Perhaps some time ....
[3:12pm] TedErnst: it seems like you are in the stage for many of your
[3:12pm] TedErnst: ideas where you need founding partners, people to
[3:12pm] TedErnst: really get behind the idea

[3:12pm] TedErnst: it's hard for me to see a place for someone with 10 [3:12pm] TedErnst: minutes per day or 10 minutes per month - you know [3:12pm] TedErnst: what I mean? [3:13pm] fridemar: Yes , work overload ... [3:18pm] fridemar: I could imagine a employer model, where half of the [3:18pm] fridemar: time is paid and the other time is free use [3:19pm] fridemar: In the free use time the employees can /and should [3:19pm] fridemar: earn/ a multiple of their standard income to prove the concept. [3:20pm] fridemar: S/he can use all the resources of the company, [3:20pm] fridemar: similar like Google staff use all standard apps, they [3:20pm] fridemar: offer for customers. [3:21pm] fridemar: all their own (homemade)standards like Google: Docs, [3:21pm] fridemar: Calender, Spreadsheet, etc.... 

[3:22pm] fridemar: I ll try to prove the concept as an active community member....

[3:23pm] fridemar: Hi Kristina, are you still here ... [3:23pm] fridemar: Julia? [3:23pm] fridemar: Mattis=MattisManzel? [3:23pm] fridemar: Michi [3:23pm] fridemar: Obed [3:23pm] fridemar: Steven [3:24pm] fridemar: Ward? [3:24pm] michiSchoenitzer: what? [3:24pm] fridemar: Nobody interested? [3:24pm] fridemar: Hi michi [3:24pm] MarkDilley: fridemar [3:24pm] fridemar: Mark 

[3:25pm] MarkDilley: I hear you getting frustrated and I don't want
[3:25pm] MarkDilley: that, but I also don't know how to get done what
[3:25pm] MarkDilley: you want to get done.
[3:25pm] fridemar: The offer for collaboration is CreateConnectCollaborate

G CreateConnectCollaborate 

[3:25pm] MarkDilley: [[CreateConnectCollaborate.com]]
[3:25pm] fridemar: Yes
[3:26pm] MarkDilley: you bought it when and are offering it for a
[3:26pm] MarkDilley: collective of $100 ?
[3:26pm] fridemar: I bought this premium domain today
[3:27pm] fridemar: Yes this is the price, you honor my initial work (and
[3:27pm] MarkDilley: the fee of 5.99$)
[3:27pm] fridemar: Then you have it.
[3:27pm] MarkDilley: why aren't we sharing it?
[3:27pm] fridemar: And I continue to work on it.
[3:28pm] fridemar: We share the work on developing it.
[3:28pm] MarkDilley: Why are we not co-owning the domain?
<pre>
[3:29pm] fridemar: I need to take at least 100$ to overcome the

G StayPoor meme, 

[3:29pm].. which is widely distributed in online communities.
[3:29pm] fridemar: Imagine I have to sell each day such a domain, to
[3:29pm] fridemar: earn my normal income, other people earn be beeing employed.
[3:30pm] fridemar:
[3:30pm] fridemar: I am not employed.
[3:30pm] • MarkDilley confused and don't have time to be confused right now :-s
[3:30pm] MarkDilley: sorry
[3:30pm] fridemar:
[3:30pm] fridemar: I understand.
[3:31pm] fridemar: "I" is only a dummy for all those free intelligences, ....
[3:31pm] fridemar: Its not about me, its about us.
[3:32pm] MarkDilley: I understand that
[3:32pm] fridemar: We share ... think about it.
[3:32pm] fridemar: The poor have no chance, if the rich say, I wont pay,
[3:32pm] fridemar: lets share.
[3:33pm] fridemar: Ted just wrote, there is not much time for staff
[3:33pm] fridemar: people to collaborate on the development of
domain-names.
[3:34pm] fridemar: So in the end, "I" do 99
[3:34pm] fridemar: percent of the work, for 3US$
[3:34pm] MarkDilley: fridemar - I am just not following you and would
[3:34pm] MarkDilley: like this on a wiki page
[3:34pm] MarkDilley: too much energy for IRC - for me
[3:34pm] fridemar: Yes please publish it ...
[3:35pm] fridemar: You did this yesterday and I am very thankful to you.

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from an IRC-chat with Aboutus staff: (basically raw protocol, with emphasized formatting of the topical part, and making the references true links)

fridemar: I have another bug to report: The FalseEditLink [2:24pm] fridemar: Sometimes an already established page xyz [2:25pm] fridemar: that is referred by xyz [2:25pm] fridemar: is not shown in HTML mode. It is shown in edit mode. [2:25pm] TedErnst: I saw your note about that on WhoWeAre [2:26pm] TedErnst: when I went to WhoWeAre, the link was red, indicating that the page does not exist [2:26pm] TedErnst: when clicking on a redlink, the page is supposed to open in edit mode [2:26pm] TedErnst: so the issue is the red/blue link, methinks [2:27pm] fridemar: Why is that so? [2:27pm] fridemar: I can [2:27pm] fridemar: can't make a rhyme on this... [2:27pm] TedErnst: I think it has to do with database replication [2:28pm] TedErnst: one or more of the servers are confused about the status of a page (exist or not exist) [2:28pm] TedErnst: which means the link shows red [2:28pm] TedErnst: once the server figures it out (perhaps when you click) [2:28pm] TedErnst: then it's blue from then on, and we never see it again for that link [2:28pm] fridemar: I did that without success.. [2:28pm] TedErnst: the link is blue now [2:29pm] fridemar: Ah good .. thank you [2:29pm] TedErnst: I didn't do anything except click on it [2:29pm] fridemar: What do you think about this Bold Wikiness? [2:29pm] TedErnst: bold wikiness? [2:30pm] You are now known as MarkDilley. [2:30pm] You were promoted to operator by ChanServ. 

[2:30pm] fridemar: Yes. I offer to RealName people kind of an incentive ..
[2:31pm] fridemar: RealName pays
[2:31pm] TedErnst: ah
[2:31pm] fridemar: has a payout .... in savings versus offering this domain
[2:31pm] fridemar: for xxxx US $
[2:32pm] fridemar: Do you want to buy it and working on it later together?
[2:32pm] fridemar: Anyone wants to buy it
[2:33pm] fridemar: It is another example of ExtremeOpenBusiness ...

G ExtremeOpenBusiness 


[2:33pm] TedErnst: I love your energy, fridemar
[2:33pm] fridemar: Is Ward listening .. you and Kent invented
[2:33pm] fridemar: ExtremeProgramming

G ExtremeProgramming

[2:34pm] MarkDilley: he is not at the moment [2:34pm] fridemar: I love all the wonderful people here ... [2:34pm] MarkDilley: feeling is mutual [2:34pm] fridemar: Mark good to see you .. 

[2:35pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness is a generalization of the

[2:35pm] fridemar: principles of ExtremeProgramming
[2:35pm] fridemar: Easyness, Full Feedback, Embracing Change, ...

[2:35pm] fridemar: Always in test-mode
[2:36pm] fridemar: Courage
[2:36pm] fridemar: OpenSource is only a snapshot of a radical OpenProcess.

Meatball:OpenProcess 

[2:37pm] fridemar: OpenBusiness is a diluted concept ...
[2:37pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness is a clearcut concept
[2:37pm] fridemar: OpenBusiness has millions of Google entries...
[2:37pm] fridemar: no chance for profiling
[2:38pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness has only the entries of the inventor
[2:39pm] fridemar: Credit goes to the precursors OpenSource movement
[2:39pm] fridemar: and Ward and Kent ... for ExtremeProgramming
[2:40pm] fridemar: ExtremeOpenBusiness makes all processes, resources,
[2:40pm] fridemar: transaction visible to the public.
[2:40pm] fridemar: But even more ... it has a builtin
[2:40pm] fridemar: OpenInvitationToParticipation.
[2:40pm] MarkDilley: this is a great story fridemar - will it be
[2:40pm] MarkDilley: somewhere else than irc
[2:40pm] fridemar: transactions
[2:41pm] fridemar: It is kind of an interactive TV reality show.
[2:41pm] fridemar: On [[Meatball:ExtremeOpenBusiness]]

Meatball:ExtremeOpenBusiness 


[2:41pm] MarkDilley: great
[2:41pm] fridemar: twinned with a AboutusOrg page.
[2:42pm] fridemar: [[ExtremeOpenBusiness]]
[2:42pm] fridemar: We make a bottom up approach .. first tests then
[2:42pm] fridemar: the theory ...
[2:43pm] fridemar: Just like in ExtremeProgramming
[2:43pm] fridemar: We can always show some surprising results ...
[2:44pm] fridemar: This accelerates the process, makes us more
[2:44pm] fridemar: productive ...
[2:44pm] fridemar: The goal is to build an infrastructure, that enables
[2:44pm] fridemar: creative and constructive wikizens to make a living
[2:44pm] fridemar: from wiki collaboration.
[2:45pm] fridemar: Without that, wikis tend to degrade into
[2:44pm] fridemar: [[Meatball: GhostTowns]] and SpamGardens.

isolated Meatball:GhostTowns 

[2:46pm] fridemar: If there are enough fully engaged wikizens in a wiki,
[2:46pm] fridemar: they will defend the wiki against parasitic
[2:46pm] fridemar: "contributions", that destroy the work of peers.
[2:48pm] fridemar: We can overcome the braindrain from wikis to
[2:48pm] fridemar: "serious workplaces", where there is work in
[2:48pm] fridemar: master-slave mode
[2:48pm] fridemar: and a fixed salary.
[2:55pm] fridemar: Of course more and more companies have a flatter
[2:55pm] fridemar: hierarchy like Google and [[Aboutus]]
[2:56pm] fridemar: But Aboutus.org is to me much more open than Google
[2:56pm] fridemar: ....

[2:57pm] fridemar: Nobody interested? [2:58pm] fridemar: Ted? [2:59pm] fridemar: coreyburke? [2:59pm] fridemar: ethand? [2:59pm] fridemar: Julia? [2:59pm] fridemar: Kristina? [2:59pm] TedErnst: sorry fridemar , I'm here [2:59pm] TedErnst: your energy is a bit difficult to keep up with [2:59pm] fridemar: [3:00pm] fridemar: Ted what do you think about [3:00pm] fridemar: CreateConnectCollaborate?

G CreateConnectCollaborate 

[3:00pm] KristinaWeis: Yes.
[3:01pm] fridemar: Hey Kristina my first love on Aboutus ... you gave me
[3:01pm] fridemar: the first gentle introduction
[3:01pm] fridemar:
[3:02pm] KristinaWeis: Haha, well thank you and you're welcome.
[3:02pm] fridemar: Since then I became more and more active as a [3:02pm] fridemar: community member ....
[3:02pm] KristinaWeis: I love that "my first love on AboutUs"
[3:02pm] KristinaWeis:
[3:03pm] fridemar: It's indeed the case .. you gave me the initial fuel ...
[3:03pm] fridemar: So what do you think about CreateConnectCollaborate

G CreateConnectCollaborate ... 

[3:04pm] fridemar: we could elaborate this together and share the gain
[3:04pm] fridemar: of this domain ...
[3:04pm] fridemar: it could become another internal motor for the
[3:04pm] fridemar: advancement of AboutUs
[3:05pm] KristinaWeis: I like it...

[3:05pm] KristinaWeis: Brb, phone. [3:05pm] fridemar: Yes 

[3:08pm] fridemar: Create=Create awareness of all the domains,
[3:08pm] fridemar: represented in Aboutus
[3:08pm] fridemar: Connect    them with synergetic Bilinks and user [3:08pm] fridemar: contributions
[3:09pm] fridemar: Collaborate  with companies, organizations, active [3:09pm] fridemar: community users ...
[3:09pm] TedErnst: fridemar: for me, the painful part of working for
[3:09pm] TedErnst: AboutUs is the financial sustainability part
[3:09pm] TedErnst: I'd love to be full-time working with you on this
[3:09pm] TedErnst: kind of stuff
[3:09pm] TedErnst: and it's simply not possible at this time
[3:10pm] fridemar: Perhaps some time ....
[3:12pm] TedErnst: it seems like you are in the stage for many of your
[3:12pm] TedErnst: ideas where you need founding partners, people to
[3:12pm] TedErnst: really get behind the idea

[3:12pm] TedErnst: it's hard for me to see a place for someone with 10 [3:12pm] TedErnst: minutes per day or 10 minutes per month - you know [3:12pm] TedErnst: what I mean? [3:13pm] fridemar: Yes , work overload ... [3:18pm] fridemar: I could imagine a employer model, where half of the [3:18pm] fridemar: time is paid and the other time is free use [3:19pm] fridemar: In the free use time the employees can /and should [3:19pm] fridemar: earn/ a multiple of their standard income to prove the concept. [3:20pm] fridemar: S/he can use all the resources of the company, [3:20pm] fridemar: similar like Google staff use all standard apps, they [3:20pm] fridemar: offer for customers. [3:21pm] fridemar: all their own (homemade)standards like Google: Docs, [3:21pm] fridemar: Calender, Spreadsheet, etc.... 

[3:22pm] fridemar: I ll try to prove the concept as an active community member....

[3:23pm] fridemar: Hi Kristina, are you still here ... [3:23pm] fridemar: Julia? [3:23pm] fridemar: Mattis=MattisManzel? [3:23pm] fridemar: Michi [3:23pm] fridemar: Obed [3:23pm] fridemar: Steven [3:24pm] fridemar: Ward? [3:24pm] michiSchoenitzer: what? [3:24pm] fridemar: Nobody interested? [3:24pm] fridemar: Hi michi [3:24pm] MarkDilley: fridemar [3:24pm] fridemar: Mark 

[3:25pm] MarkDilley: I hear you getting frustrated and I don't want
[3:25pm] MarkDilley: that, but I also don't know how to get done what
[3:25pm] MarkDilley: you want to get done.
[3:25pm] fridemar: The offer for collaboration is CreateConnectCollaborate

G CreateConnectCollaborate 

[3:25pm] MarkDilley: [[CreateConnectCollaborate.com]]
[3:25pm] fridemar: Yes
[3:26pm] MarkDilley: you bought it when and are offering it for a
[3:26pm] MarkDilley: collective of $100 ?
[3:26pm] fridemar: I bought this premium domain today
[3:27pm] fridemar: Yes this is the price, you honor my initial work (and
[3:27pm] MarkDilley: the fee of 5.99$)
[3:27pm] fridemar: Then you have it.
[3:27pm] MarkDilley: why aren't we sharing it?
[3:27pm] fridemar: And I continue to work on it.
[3:28pm] fridemar: We share the work on developing it.
[3:28pm] MarkDilley: Why are we not co-owning the domain?
<pre>
[3:29pm] fridemar: I need to take at least 100$ to overcome the

G StayPoor meme, 

[3:29pm].. which is widely distributed in online communities.
[3:29pm] fridemar: Imagine I have to sell each day such a domain, to
[3:29pm] fridemar: earn my normal income, other people earn be beeing employed.
[3:30pm] fridemar:
[3:30pm] fridemar: I am not employed.
[3:30pm] • MarkDilley confused and don't have time to be confused right now :-s
[3:30pm] MarkDilley: sorry
[3:30pm] fridemar:
[3:30pm] fridemar: I understand.
[3:31pm] fridemar: "I" is only a dummy for all those free intelligences, ....
[3:31pm] fridemar: Its not about me, its about us.
[3:32pm] MarkDilley: I understand that
[3:32pm] fridemar: We share ... think about it.
[3:32pm] fridemar: The poor have no chance, if the rich say, I wont pay,
[3:32pm] fridemar: lets share.
[3:33pm] fridemar: Ted just wrote, there is not much time for staff
[3:33pm] fridemar: people to collaborate on the development of
domain-names.
[3:34pm] fridemar: So in the end, "I" do 99
[3:34pm] fridemar: percent of the work, for 3US$
[3:34pm] MarkDilley: fridemar - I am just not following you and would
[3:34pm] MarkDilley: like this on a wiki page
[3:34pm] MarkDilley: too much energy for IRC - for me
[3:34pm] fridemar: Yes please publish it ...
[3:35pm] fridemar: You did this yesterday and I am very thankful to you.

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