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==[[Welcome]]==
 
  
Hello Fridemar! [[Portal:AboutUsWelcome|Welcome]] to [[AboutUs]].
 
 
I'm excited that you've chosen to explore the wonderful world of [[wiki]] here at [[AboutUs.org]] - the place where everyone may collaborate to build the commons and community through their [[constructive_edits|constructive edits]] and participation.  [[Welcome]]!  Check out the [[TheWikiWay:WhatIsWiki|brand new tour]] to learn about [[wiki]], what [[AboutUs.org]] is all about and how to use the site to the fullest.  From there, go ahead and and see what you can improve upon first on the [[wiki]] (pick a page and hit the edit button and go to town), whether it be a [[wiki]] [[DomainPage]] (just type the site into the search bar like this: AboutUs.org and hit find) or your very own [[PersonalPage]].  I look forward to seeing your first edit here on [[AboutUs.org]]!
 
 
Be sure to let us/me know if you have any questions along the way (you can leave a message on my talk page via the talk link by my name, join the AboutUs WebIRC [[LiveChat|here]], or check the "currently online" section on the homepage for someone knowledgeable and send them a message on their talk page).  I wonder if you might want to add a little information about yourself on [[User:Fridemar|your personal page]]?  (Check out [[PersonalPage]]s for guidance or click my name below as an example.)  Please don't hesitate to let me know if you'd like some assistance in accomplishing your goals on [[AboutUs]] and if you fancy some help or new ideas I've found [[Portal:AboutUsHelp|the help page]] to be a nice resource.  [[Portal:AboutUsWelcome|Welcome]] to the [[AboutUs]] [[Portal:AboutUsCommunity|community]] - it's great to have you!
 
 
Have a most wonderful day! <br>
 
[[User:KristinaWeis|KristinaWeis]] | <small>[[User talk:KristinaWeis|**talk**]] 14:03, 4 June 2007 (PDT) </small>
 
 
 
 
Hi Kristina, what a warm and nice welcome. Thank you. Unfortunately I noticed this page not earlier than today. Hey, this community is exactly realizing my dreams, I dreamt in the MeatballWiki. It is the dream of a Social Common Wealth. You call it simply the Commons. I coined it independently [[Meatball:SocialCommonWealth]] and registered all the top level domains *.com, *.net, *.biz, *.org, *.info to develop them with full engagement: in my dedicated blog, in wikis, forums, mailing-lists.
 
 
To make it attractive  as a community effort, I have been suggesting to my peers to:
 
 
* contribute digital goods and services, based on ideas, concepts, art, music, software.
 
* buy related domains, where the peers could amplify each other's efforts
 
* selling at last the domains to potent likeminded Internet players
 
 
This way, there is a good chance, that the community members can openly develop their ideas,
 
based on the Creative Commons license (Author credit + Share Alike) and get also their "food on the table", which is not a trivial task, since most of the communities appear to stick to the [[Meatball:StayPoor]] meme and don't have yet detected the secret of the [[Meatball:HoofSmith]] paradigm. This metapher appears to me the base for a [[Meatball:OpenBusiness]] or more concrete: the base for a [[Meatball:OpenBusinessWiki]].
 
 
Fortunately AboutUs allows the workers to realize some revenue for the thousands of hours, they put into their contributions. ( I am proud, that for some hundred hours of wiki publishing and blogging, I now earned nearly 2 US$ dollars by Adsense. :-) I hope, that as a community effort,  each author at least gets enough revenue, that s/he is not forced to work for third parties, who don't care for the wellbeing of the planet.
 
 
This post is blogged for the mutual benefit: [[http://fridemar.blogspot.com/2007/06/aboutus-response-to-welcome-message.html]]
 
 
Do you allow [[Meatball:WikiBlogging]]?
 
 
Heaven for you and all the beings around us
 
 
-- [http://fridemar.com fridemar]
 
 
 
==Oh hello==
 
Sorry, I was just looking through the people currently online (you can see this on the [[Wiki|homepage]]) and I noticed that you left me a message here... it will only alert me when a message is left on '''my''' talk page, but I'm glad I came across this... I'm about to read through it and send a reply your way.
 
 
:Okay, I actually don't have an answer to your questions as of yet, but it sounds interesting.  I will bring it up to a few fellow [[:Category:AboutUsStaffPortland|AboutUs staffers]] and see what they know on the subject.  Thanks for your message, if you want to reply you can click the talk link below by my name to get to my message page.  Have a good one!
 
:[[User:KristinaWeis|KristinaWeis]] | <small>[[User talk:KristinaWeis|**talk**]] 14:11, 25 June 2007 (PDT) </small>
 
 
::I talked with [[Brandon_CS_Sanders]] via [[LiveChat|the AboutUs WebIRC]] and he answers with a resounding "of course, as long as they are licensed under By-SA"  to your question of whether [[AboutUs]] permits Meatball [[wiki]] blogging.  I wish I knew more on the this topic, but I am excited at the synergy of the ideas that we all seem to share about what [[wiki]] can be and do.  Good'ay.
 
::[[User:KristinaWeis|KristinaWeis]] | <small>[[User talk:KristinaWeis|**talk**]] 14:34, 25 June 2007 (PDT) </small>
 
 
:::p.s. At [[WikiAnatomy]] we have some tours set up for newbies, but also an advanced track (tour 4 mostly) that highlights [[AboutUs]] values and the like.  You might find it interesting.
 
:::[[User:KristinaWeis|KristinaWeis]] | <small>[[User talk:KristinaWeis|**talk**]] 14:38, 25 June 2007 (PDT) </small>
 
 
== Wow!  I'm in awe of your mediator work! ... One Tweak ==
 
 
Awesome is all I can say.  It's fun to watch you work on [[UniversalWikiEditButton]]!  Keep on rockin' :-)
 
 
Fridemar ... I love your energy on the [[UniversalWikiEditButton]]!  There is one tweak to your style that I'd like to suggest.  When I'm chatting with someone on their status page, I've found that I get a better response if I ruthlessly avoid trying to convince them and instead focus on listening to their concerns and tweaking the document to work from them.  I love to convince people (salesman at heart), but I've found that I create a sort of allergic reaction when I include phrases that pressure them into changing from not yet to yes.  I've gotten a high pressure sales tactic feeling from some of your comments and so thought I'd share my experiences in the hopes that they'd be helpful.  Keep up the great listening work!  It's a pleasure to be working with you :-)  Warm Regards [[Brandon CS Sanders|Brandon]]
 
 
==PennyBank Brainstorming==
 
moved to [[PennyBank.Biz_Discussion]]
 
 
==PennyBank calls for founding collaborators (Brandon,Christophe,Jean-Christophe) ==
 
 
Brandon .. thank you for your subtle "tweak" on my talk-page. I left there some sneak preview information and offer you and other friendly and constructive peers to join the foundation committee with an investment of 0.80 US$ :-)  [[User:Fridemar|Fridemar]] 16:20, 10 July 2007 (PDT)
 
 
: Fridemar, I'm in.  I'm a huge fan of transparency.  I would like to make all of my financial transactions transparent.  What is my next step? [[Image:Brandon CS Sanders Caricature.jpg|25px]] [[Brandon CS Sanders]]
 
 
<->[[User_talk:Brandon_CS_Sanders#Next_step:_Transparent_Bank_Account]]
 
[[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 16:38, 3 March 2009 (PST)
 
 
: Hi Fridemar, not a lot of time but this PennyBank could interest my fellow worker [[Jean-Christophe Capelli]]. Don't hesitate to talk with him -- [[Christophe Ducamp]] | <small>[[User talk:ChristopheGDucamp|talk]]</small> 06:10, 18 July 2007 (PDT)
 
 
::Hi Christophe, from our long common history in Meatball, you know that you and your friends are welcome. What about a dedicated PennyBank in the French speaking part of the world? I will visit Jean-Christophe with a greeting/recommendation of you. Thank you. [[User:Fridemar|Fridemar]] 13:48, 18 July 2007 (PDT)
 
 
 
== Media Wiki Syntax ==
 
try [[TheWikiWay:WikiSyntax]] - it is one stop on a starter tour for new [[WikiWiki|wiki]] folk. Not sure I am tracking  your last comment on my [[UniversalWikiEditButton|universal wiki edit button]] page.  [[MarkDilley]]
 
 
Thank you [[MarkDilley|Mark]] for the direct link, which saves me time; you are invited to be part of the [[PennyBank.Biz]]. How do you think about it? [[User:Fridemar|Fridemar]] 13:24, 10 July 2007 (PDT)
 
 
==[[Special:RecentChanges]]==
 
Yes, there are not many edits in just one day... it's pretty crazy how the number of edits has been increasing so steadily.  In the URL you can override it to show 1,000 etc. if you wish, but I believe it won't go back more than a week, but a person's contributions list and a page's history will.  [[User:KristinaWeis|KristinaWeis]]
 
 
Kristina, thank you for the useful tip. [[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 13:58, 25 July 2007 (PDT)
 
 
== [[WhoWeAre]] ==
 
 
Hi,
 
 
I would just like to tell you about the [[WhoWeAre]] consensus poll. This is a unique opportunity for all community members to discuss and decide what AboutUs is and more importantly what role we, the community, plays.
 
 
The discussion is still in its initial stages and there are a handful of people involved in this discussion. But it's not enough. Every one of us has a stake in this process. We all need to air our views. Our opinions will make a difference. We cannot and must not let a handful of people define us. We must speak out and contribute because we are being defined and I for one would like to have a say in how I am being defined.
 
 
Please contribute to this really important project. Without you it cannot successfully create a good definition of who we are. [[User:Tanwir Shah|Tanwir Shah]]
 
 
Thank you Tanwir, I have joined the action [[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 15:03, 2 August 2007 (PDT)
 
 
==Open source accounting software (David Bradon)==
 
 
Fridemar, You were king enough to leave a question about accounting software in my pages.  I am not sure if you have seen the answer: http://www.aboutus.org/3DN_accounting
 
 
I hope that we can find a way to work together . . . [[David Braden]]
 
 
David, thank you, I am going to you site and respond to you there. [[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 16:35, 4 August 2007 (PDT)
 
 
== [[Projects:WhoWeAre]] ==
 
 
Hi Fridemar,
 
This is the message I'm sending to all people listed on [[Projects:WhoWeAre]] ([[TedErnst]], [[Brandon CS Sanders]], [[Obed Suhail]], [[Asad Butt]], [[MartinPfahler]], [[User:Justwally|Wally Wilson]] [[User:fridemar]]).
 
 
: [[WhoWeAre]] stage 1 consensus poll went live just a few minutes ago.
 
 
: If you have little time (one minute?), I invite you to take a look at your status page in the [[WhoWeAre]] stage 1 consensus poll and set an appropriate status message.
 
 
: If you have more time, I invite you to look more closely at [[WhoWeAre]] and then at [[Projects:WhoWeAre]] to see what needs to be done, or add to the list of what needs to be done.
 
 
: Thanks much!  [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]]
 
 
== [[WhoWeAre]] facilitation ==
 
 
Hi Fridemar,
 
 
Thanks for indicating that you'd like to help with [[ConsensusPollFacilitation]] for [[WhoWeAre]].  The Stage 1 consensus poll has officially begun, and this note is to invite you to visit your status page and update the comment and/or the status.  We also have [[Projects:WhoWeAre#Engaging facilitators]] as a place to keep track of what facilitators are doing.  Feel free to jump right in with tasks on the list there and/or ask questions and/or add to the list.  Thanks much!
 
 
peace, [[Ted Ernst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small>
 
 
== skype or call ==
 
 
Hi Fridemar,
 
 
Getting ready to have a call soon, do you have [[Skype]] or shall I call your number? MarkDilley
 
== [[NewSkin]] Beta Preview ==
 
Hello Fridemar!
 
 
We've noticed your contributions and are glad to be on the AboutUs team with you!  As an [[ActiveMember]] your energy and ideas determine our future direction.  One way that [[ActiveMember]]s stay "in the loop" is to participate in the beta previews of large new changes to the site before they are generally released.
 
 
Today we're starting a limited beta preview of an earthy [[NewSkin]] intended to reflect the alive and growing AboutUs community.  The [[NewSkin]] is designed to feel wholesome and connected with the real world.  This choice was made to reassure the many folks who feel that the internet is a "scary place" where mean people hide behind fake identities and shout insults at each other.  We hope that the [[NewSkin]] evokes our values in a way that helps visitors and members alike feel grounded in true community.
 
 
'''We'd love your help putting the [[NewSkin]] through its paces!''' To give it a whirl you'll need to be logged in.  Once you are logged in, go to "my preferences" | "skin"  and select "design".  Don't forget to then click the "save" button!  You can always go back to the current skin by selecting "aboutus" via the same steps.
 
 
Your feedback on the new look for aboutus will help ensure that it has a maximally positive impact when we roll it out.  Thanks for being a valuable member of the community, we look forward to your feedback on the [[NewSkin]] page!
 
 
Warm Regards,<br />
 
the [[DevelopmentTeam]]
 
 
 
Thank you for the appealing skin and the notification. I am on the new design now.
 
[[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 13:17, 2 November 2007 (PDT)
 
 
==[[WhoWeAre|WhoWeAre Stage 1]] [[Consensus Poll]]==
 
 
Hi Fridemar, The [[WhoWeAre|WhoWeAre Stage 1]] [[Consensus Poll]] has surpassed all it's [[WhoWeAre:About_The_Consensus_Poll#GoThresholds|GoThresholds]] and the [[WhoWeAre:About_The_Consensus_Poll#DoneTimer|DoneTimer]] has started. This means that all participants now have the opportunity to check [[WhoWeAre|WhoWeAre Stage 1]] one more time, to make sure that nothing has been overlooked. Please feel free to change the document and/or change your status, if need be. Best, [[User:Obed Suhail|Obed Suhail]] 02:48, 25 September 2007 (PDT)
 
 
== [[WhoWeAre|WhoWeAre Stage 2]] ==
 
 
Hi Fridemar,
 
 
I just left you a note: [[WhoWeAre:Stage2Status/Fridemar]]. [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 14:52, 5 November 2007 (PST)
 
 
==Hi==
 
 
Hi Fridemar, nice to hear from you! Its always good to meet similar minded people; it opens new avenues to explore our areas of interest. Besides theology and philosophy, I also study world religions. Looking forward to work and learn with you on the [[Wiki]]. Have a very nice day :-) Best, [[User:Obed Suhail|Obed Suhail]]
 
 
Hi Obed,
 
thank you for your notifications, your personal feedback and ... studying world religions. A knowledge-rich, peaceful and loving dialogue between the world religions (and beyond) is a substantial contribution for more peace and life-quality in the world.
 
[[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 13:05, 2 November 2007 (PDT)
 
 
==[[AboutUsCoreValues]]==
 
I think I just did to something that I guess works for now.  [[WhoWeAre]] and other value-related things are being articulated right now, but I think this one works for now... maybe?  [[Kristina Weis|Kristina]] | [[User talk:KristinaWeis|**talk**]] 18:36, 2 November 2007 (PDT)
 
Thank you Kristina, our actions were done in parallel; so there might be some edit-conflict.
 
[[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 18:43, 2 November 2007 (PDT)
 
 
== [[Template:GoogleLink]] ==
 
 
Hi Fridemar, feel free to improve the template yourself, if you like, or make a new one that meets your needs.  I didn't write the template, but even if I did, have at it!  Just so you know, I am a HUGE [[CamelCase]] fan, and would love for them to be automatically linked.  And, I'm guessing we will not be modifying mediawiki in this way, but instead adding CamelCase support to [[TopSoil]], when we get there.  Hope all is well with you, and I look forward to working with you more on the values.  I loved your contribution to my [[FutureLink]] [[WorkInPublic]]!  peace, [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 07:37, 3 November 2007 (PDT)
 
: [[HowToMakeATemplate]] definitely needs someone to write it.  I started.  I asked [[User:Vartan|Vartain]] if he'd like to do it.  By the way, you have no link to your talk page from your [[PersonalPage]] anymore. [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] | <small>[[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]</small> 21:18, 3 November 2007 (PDT)
 
 
 
* Hi Fridemar, thanks for your contribution [[Hoofsmith]];  I've read [[Meatball:HoofSmith]], and appreciate the work especially in the context of [[WhoWeAre]].  [[User:Kasey|Kasey]] 15:33, 8 November 2007 (PST)
 
 
Hi Fridemar,  thanks for sharing about your group’s work, I tend to mull new things a bit- your proposal is very interesting.  I can appreciate the connections between people, mods to behavior and the potential for those engaged in the process to subvert traditional roles.  I think it is exciting to explore the limitations and role of the specialist.  When is your proposal due, how long has the group been working on it?  I’d really like to learn more…. Also, I fixed a link from your user/personal page the ‘’Leave Me a Message’’ it directed to [[KristinaWeis]]. [[User:Kasey|Kasey]] 10:49, 13 November 2007 (PST)
 
''Thx Kasey for fixing the link and for your interest. Tomorrow we have a conversation with the man, who is the gatekeeper, who can amplify or dampen our proposal. I think the future is peer to peer, similar like here in AboutUs.''
 
[[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 12:24, 13 November 2007 (PST)
 
{{DEFAULTSORT:Fridemar}}
 
 
 
The [[tigermaus.de]] girl subsequently sent an e-mail to support, but I don't know how/why she found you to message first.  Sorry, [[Kristina Weis|Kristina]] <small> [[User talk:KristinaWeis|..talk..]] </small> 18:18, 4 December 2007 (PST)
 
 
==[[WikiLink]]==
 
I love the additions that you made and that you made them... but I don't really grasp them yet.  Can you help me?  :)  [[Kristina Weis|Kristina]] <small> [[User talk:KristinaWeis|..talk..]] [[WebIRCHelp|..chat..]] </small> 23:22, 15 January 2008 (PST)
 
 
Thank you Kristina for the question :). For reasons, explained in <-> [[User_talk:KristinaWeis#Benefit_of_BiLinks]], I give you my answer there. [[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 04:47, 16 January 2008 (PST)
 
 
==BiLinks==
 
 
<->
 
[[User_talk:KristinaWeis#Benefit_of_BiLinks]],
 
[[http://www.aboutus.org/index.php?title=User_talk:KristinaWeis&action=edit&section=6 edit target]]
 
 
== Welcoming :) ==
 
 
I just saw [[User_talk:nlpino|this]].  Yay!  [[Kristina Weis|Kristina]] [[User talk:KristinaWeis|.talk.]] [[WebIRCHelp|.chat.]] 16:41, 6 February 2008 (PST)
 
 
== bilinks and such ==
 
 
Fridemar,
 
 
I haven't entirely groked the bilinks thing.  Give me a tutorial? [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] <small>([[User talk:TedErnst|talk]])</small> 10:24, 29 February 2008 (PST)
 
: Thank you Ted, I tried a first answer on your talkpage and its BiLinked context. --[[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 17:18, 29 February 2008 (PST)
 
 
== [[BiLinks]] ==
 
 
This seems like a really interesting concept.  It's similar to a [[backlink]], yes?  I like it. [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] <small>([[User talk:TedErnst|talk]])</small> 16:19, 29 February 2008 (PST)
 
 
: Using BiLinks is a cultivated form of using backlinks. They deliberately increase both, the value of the source and that of the target pages. Hopefully they will soon be supported by the WikiEngines or WikiBrowsers, because doing them manually is an exhausting (but worthwile) task. [[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 17:22, 29 February 2008 (PST)
 
 
<->
 
* [[User_talk:TedErnst#Why_BiLinks?]] BiLinks as a tool to increase Transparency
 
* [http://wiki.name.com/index.php/User_talk:Fridemar wiki.name.com:User_talk:Fridemar]
 
 
== [[InterWiki]] ==
 
 
Hey Fridemar, are you interested in helping to add to the [[InterWikiMap]]? Is that of any interest to you? ~~ [[MarkDilley]]
 
 
== ExtremeOpenBusiness reworking ==
 
 
Hello Fridemar.  We have made this change quickly. Indeed I was reworking the ExtremeOpenBusiness page when I discovered your reworking.  I am happy to see such rapid moves.  However it appears coediting at the same time is impractical so I will wait until your reworking process is complete before I extend the process.  It would like it if you could flag me when you have essentially completed your current work. [[User:Aaron Poeze|Aaron Poeze]] 10:13, 20 June 2008 (PDT)
 
 
Thank you Aaron, for starting the reworking. Yes, I am back to the computer now and continue, leaving intermediary WorkInProgress messages
 
(perhaps enriched with additional comments) on the [[Meatball:ShortDigest]]. After finishing my round, I leave (as suggested) a ready message here (or on your user talk-page [[User_talk:Aaron]]. By the way, my earlier experience with polished open dialogues is reflected in e.g. [[RiskSharingPassiveReturnBrainstorming]] and [[DomainRegistrarTransfer]]. [[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 14:29, 20 June 2008 (PDT)
 
 
==BiLinks==
 
 
<->
 
* [[User_talk:KristinaWeis#Benefit_of_BiLinks]],
 
* [[http://www.aboutus.org/index.php?title=User_talk:KristinaWeis&action=edit&section=6 edit target]]
 
* [[User_talk:Aaron]]
 
 
==  ==
 
''Aaron:''
 
Thankyou Fridemar.  I look forward to seeing how I can help polish the document and appreciate you doing the hard yards.  It also appears a community member here has refocused my personal information to the Aaron Poeze page under the concept of disambiguation.  He suggests this is normal practice here.
 
 
I am uncertain of where I stand in this community new to me but having two personal pages to maintain on just one community site is very inefficient. I may have to abandon the Aaron page. [[User:Aaron Poeze|Aaron Poeze]] 17:53, 20 June 2008 (PDT)
 
 
''Fridemar:''
 
Hello Aaron, sorry for the disambuigation procedure (similar to the Wikipedia procedure), I didn't anticipate, because Aaron was not yet taken. In the case of [[Clarissa]] it was no problem; however in your case it appears to cause a problem (relativ to the other Aaron entries, who have a longer history here).
 
 
I think all the other Aaron entities will have a benefit from such superactive members as you (and myself), because this way they all get more exposure :-)
 
 
Yes [[TedErnst]] is an appreciated community and staff member, and has the painful responsibility to balance out a lot of different (often conflicting) interests. I thank him many helpful interventions and you will soon see, that he is on the side of friendly and constructive active community members. Frankly ask him or [[KristinaWeis]] for advice.
 
 
For synchronizing our goals, here my sketched vision for my next suggested steps: I would like to update and link my open domain portfolio to ExtremeOpenBusiness. This is realized as a rudimentary Google Spreadsheet to be developed into a buy/sell/makeoffer tool with an integrated payment gateway (howsoever, perhaps with your suggested
 
LET, Ripplepay or GoogleCheck, Paypal or NamePros or ... transactions)
 
 
If you too create your open domain-portefolio as such a Spreadsheet,
 
(even if it has a single entry) we can link them with each other and offer to act as pilot testers, simulating the endproduct with real world data.
 
 
We can go on, telling our [[Wiki:UserStory]], formulating our
 
[[Wiki:AcceptanceTest]] and running through the whole gammut of [Wiki:ExtremeProgramming] practises, inviting programmers of the OpenSource/CreativeCommons movement to programm such an interface for [[SocialDomaining]].
 
 
We might consider [[EditGrid.com]] too, I have green light from them to use this wonderful Spreadsheet software for zero cost, although it is a (social) commercial application.
 
 
I see a lot of PR-relevant OpenMails we can write, to trigger the process, combined with real business transactions.
 
En passant we will generalize the XP principles, adapting them to ExtremeOpenBusiness, applied to SocialDomaining.
 
 
There is so much stuff to collaborate on in HolisticMode (See [[Meatball:CollaborativeMode]] ), that every helping hand is welcome to participate.
 
 
It's important to strive for tasty morcel presentations of our ideas;
 
otherwise our readers/collaborators will have to suffer from mental overload.
 
 
[[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 18:46, 20 June 2008 (PDT)
 
 
== Disambigation Aaron ==
 
I will ask him then and verify his desire I abandon the Aaron page.
 
-- Aaron
 
 
Here is the bilink, where I made a stab for short names as another incentive for attracting new members to the Aboutus community.
 
 
<-> [[User_talk:TedErnst#Disambigation]] [[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 03:48, 21 June 2008 (PDT)
 
 
: I have responded [[User_talk:TedErnst#Disambuigation]] -- [[User:TedErnst|TedErnst]] ([[User talk:TedErnst|talk]]) 19:10, 21 June 2008 (PDT)
 
 
== Reworking [[ExtremeOpenBusiness]] ==
 
 
 
I am working on the ExtremeOpenBusiness page atm.  When I am complete I'll let you know and you can let me know how some changes might not be best, remember I have not reworked a wiki before.  I may also leave notes for you where you input would be appreciated. -- Aaron
 
 
Ok. [[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 04:09, 21 June 2008 (PDT)
 
 
== Agreement on Spreadsheet ==
 
I enthusiastically agree with adding the spreadsheet in and I will do the same copying the format you use for consistency. -- Aaron
 
 
Ok. [[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 04:09, 21 June 2008 (PDT)
 
 
== Basic Rework complete ==
 
 
I've finished this basic reworking and you can go ahead and change/see what you think.  I hope I have added some value and clarity.
 
 
I am wondering how much of the conversation mode you want to retain.  I think the offers and acceptances we make are worth preserving in an 'as is' conversation but am inclined to slash up the rest for conciseness.
 
 
: Yes Aaron, what about slashing it into the annotation sphere TrailFire. [[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 04:09, 21 June 2008 (PDT)
 
 
I agree with making the new page on our move to AboutUs.  We also need to complete the signatures and make the links we want active to work.
 
 
Yes, definitely. [[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 04:09, 21 June 2008 (PDT)
 
 
== Division of work: Focus on AboutUs / WardsWiki ==
 
I will now focus a little more of AboutUS as a community.  That page was the first priority but it's time to discover what makes AboutUs tick and the kind of expectations that exist here. -- Aaron
 
 
In the meantime I concentrate myself (besides the Spreadsheet work) on adapting XP stuff to [[XOB]] in [[WardsWiki]]. [[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 04:09, 21 June 2008 (PDT)
 
 
== List of Reasons to Move ==
 
 
Thanks for the work on FromMeatballToAboutus as well.  I was wondering if you could add your list of compelling reasons to move to that page which was originally on AaronPoeze in MeatBall.
 
 
Hopefully today this identity crisis (haha!) can be sorted.  I guess we also need to explore what form of WikiBank-like process to use.  There are so many part solutions.  Is developing our own a good idea?  I also think we would benefit by drawng in more people.  That kind of begs them to ask what we are doing.  Maybe this needs to be more prominent.
 
 
== BlipTV and StenoMotion response ==
 
''Aaron:''
 
This BlipTV certainly sounds promising.  I had a bit of a look aorund and it doesn't seem to locked in which is even better.  Of course it means your suggestion of 'like reality tv' was literal!
 
 
[[StenoMotion]] is a concept i do not yet fully understand.  I watched your pieces on Youtube.
 
 
I have a vague idea of the intention.  Which is to use shorthand in a sign language method.  I suppose you know of my hearing impairment via the blog.  As it happens I am one of the few with such hearing impairment that do know the local sign language (Auslan).  I was brought up in a 'normal' mode with no special education.
 
 
However, I have some deaf friends and I understand how Auslan and some other sign works.  Do you have experience with the deaf community in Germany? [[User:Aaron Poeze|Aaron Poeze]] 03:49, 23 June 2008 (PDT)
 
 
''Fridemar:''
 
Hello Aaron, yes [[BlipTV.com]] might be the way to go with [[ExtremeOpenBusiness]]; "i" looked at the site, but could only verify, that they accept the video flash format *.flv and not (yet) the more general format *.swf, which is freely hosted at [[swfpages.com]] and which "i" suggested together with *.wnk to be hosted at Aboutus (must find the link and redirect to it from [[SwfAboutus]],[[WnkAboutus]]). Swf allows interactive videos with a scripted language and thus is superior to flv.
 
 
We can suggest it in an OpenMail to BlipTV, linked from [[BlipTV.com]],
 
to motivate them to make it an acceptable file format. If this doesn't
 
work, we can reuse the same proposal, directing them to hundreds of other social video sites, who are represented on Aboutus, until some insightful providers accept this suggestion. This too is another example for the power of [[XOB]].
 
 
Yes [[Stenomotion]], [[Stenomotion.com]], etc. needs
 
* development, embedding all existing [[YT]] videos on special Aboutus pages and adding additional wiki-context.
 
* new [[YT]] or Blip videos
 
As a happy coincidence we both share the appreciation for the deaf community, "i" invite you to share investment-costs, work and gain for all the involved domains.
 
Could you please tell something about {{g|Auslan}}.
 
It's a good implicit tip of you to initiate a contact to the German deaf community.
 
You see, that our [[XOB]] calls for a lot of more people to join.
 
In the same sense as [[XP]] started with with [[Wiki:PairProgramming]],
 
we start with <->[[Wiki:PairDeveloping]].
 
[[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 05:59, 23 June 2008 (PDT)
 
PS.: "i" reminds to the wisdom of [[Wiki:EgolessProgramming]],[[Wiki:EgolessDeveloping]] and beyond :-)
 
 
== More SocialDomaining ==
 
 
I bought the rest of the top level (namely .net .info and .biz) domains for extremeopenbusiness.  I'm redirecting them all to the aboutus extremeopenbusiness page. [[User:Aaron Poeze|Aaron Poeze]] 03:48, 23 June 2008 (PDT) ''ps i must remember to sign off more often''
 
 
This is great. I am happy, that those domains are in the right hands and not owned by somebody unknown, who acts as a (''tentatively putting in this generic link for searching/creating possibly a better one'') {{g|FreeRider}}, which gives rise to the {{g|Wikipedia:Free_rider_problem}}. [[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 04:50, 23 June 2008 (PDT)
 
 
==[[FreeEscrow]]==
 
<-> [[User Talk: Ray King]]
 
 
== FreeEscrow ==
 
 
Fridemar,
 
 
I'm not sure I fully understand it and don't have the time engage further, but am happy to send the $100 as a gesture of support since you're doing something interesting.  Please let me know what's the best method.  - [[User:Ray King|Ray]] | &lt;small&gt;[[User talk:Ray King|talk]]&lt;/small&gt; 11:09, 16 February 2009 (PST)
 
 
== Your Open Business Idea ==
 
 
Hi Fridemar!  Ray is off at a conference and I thought I would chip in and try and figure out next steps.  He is definitely in the ''c) Or is the money meant to give a support for my voluntary community work.'' camp :-)  So next step is to see how we can get you the money.  I read through your ideas and am still unclear.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
 
 
Thank you Mark for this friendly notice, I'll respond on your talk-page: <->{{g|user_talk:mark_dilley}}. Best, [[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 16:18, 2 March 2009 (PST)
 
 
: ''Hi Fridemar, I have just gotten back from a memorial from my grandmother - catching up on communications - we still need to figure to get the seed $ for your idea to you.  Now I would like to help convey your message to Ray - but I am not sure what iti is.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]
 
 
:''Fridemar, I am in charge of getting this task done.  Please give me specific instructions on what to do next please.  Best, [[MarkDilley]]''
 
 
Mark, thank you for this message and good vibrations back to you and your family. I am happy, that you and Ray appreciate my efforts. It is a great help that we may celebrate this initial public transfer in a special setting. I found a practical and PR-efficient solution to the transfer problem with using Paypal's storefront Html widget, that can be used virtually over each Website, by making annotations with [[TrailFire.com]] in form of "trailmarks". I have tested to imbed in such a
 
trailmark the object of the storefront widget. Yeahh.. it appears to work, although originally this was only meant to embed video objects. Currently I am preparing the outfit of such a mini storefront. If I am ready I write this on your or my talkpage, such that you can give the starting shot for zillions of real community transactions
 
* over pages of Aboutus,
 
* on the silk-roads of Html presentations of Cmaps,
 
* over pages of all wikis, that are awakened to the ere of {{g|Wikinomics}}.
 
* on your own or befriended blogs
 
* and beyond on befriended HTLM pages ...
 
On each page where such a flying shop is hovering, it needs only an unobtrusive short notice, that there is a trailmark over it. It is even possible to annotate search-results of Web-search-engines with integrated shopping capability. See [[Meatball:GoogleSearchWiki]].
 
If you are a member of the TrailMark community, you even don't need a mark on the underlying page. You can see/expand/use all annotations.
 
In the meantime you are heartily invited to download a Trailfire addon and play a bit with in "wiki-mode" (which you can check under "Sharing options"). It is really an eyeopener and such a useful tool for community building.
 
LetsHelpEachOther
 
[[User:Fridemar|fridemar]] 17:26, 28 May 2009 (EDT)
 

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